Wargamers, assemble!

[Malika]

I'm curious about what you got for your Orks..it's always good to see more Epic players out there! if you are interested in the ASP we could perhaps come up with some cool ideas for gaming in our setting!

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[Lanrak]

Hi ,
Well after struggeling with 3rd 4th ed 40k revisions.
I got inspiration after playing DoW followed by CoH  on the PC.

40k should be very similar to WWII game play wise! Similar unit types  and unit functions.

(Epic plays very similar to lots of 1/300th scale WWII -modern games. IMO.Which is great!)

The C.L.A.W. rules are developed for games sizes similar to 1000 to 6000 pts of current 40k and Apoc games.
(Or  smaller Epic engagments.)

What I refer to as 'company level'.(As 40k 2nd ed was platoon level and Epic is batalion to regimental level.)

Any hoo here are the PDFs of my current wip.
You can  always develp the system further .
My computer skill are pants so apologies for the lay out and presentation.

All thoughts and comments are welcome.

TTFN
Lanrak.

[Malika]

Cool cool, the Anargo Sector Project has always been primarily focussed on the background as a reaction to GW's constant oversimplifications, self-contradictions and down right errors (good example of this could be GW's numbers, be it for years or for number of soldiers involved in a war). So it's very cool for me to see the wargame aspect turning towards us as well, not only do we offer a great setting for games to be played, it might also be possible to "re-define" some stuff, for example with Phil's Warspike!

I will check out the rules for C.L.A.W. tomorrow when I'm back home, the internet connection at my work isn't the greatest to put it lightly!

[CELS]

Welcome to the ASP, Lanrak. I'm not sure how I missed this thread, but I tend to mark all the messages in the Wargaming forum as unread, since it's mostly just posts in the Warspike forum that I don't visit very often. To explain where I stand on 40k wargaming - I dislike 40k very much, so my three 40k armies are doing little besides collecting dust, however I do love both BFG and Epic (especially the latter) and I've invested a fair bit of time in both of these games. Since I barely have time to give BFG and Epic enough attention (especially my somewhat neglected armies/fleets), I really don't have the time to start thinking about other systems that I won't have the time to use anyway. When I want a good wargame, I play BFG or Epic, and when I don't... well, that's where the rest of the ASP comes in, with the RPG, story-writing and whatever else.

So that's just my "apology" for not showing a real interest in wargames except for Epic and BFG. Although I am happy to see that others are motivated to work with both 40k-rules and unofficial wargames, on our discussion board, with the ultimate goal (or bonus) of being able to use these as part of the ASP

With that said... You really should go and introduce yourself in the Introduction forum, Lanrak. Otherwise the pitter-patter of cherub feet will haunt you while you sleep. Not to mention the cherub poop. (You thought bird crap on your car was annoying? Cherub poop is a whole other league...) 

No pressure though.   

[Malika]

I think it's currently pretty awesome that we probably got the highest amount of wargamers the ASP has ever had so far! 

No...this is not a one-liner, it's just a weather balloon! Nothing to see here folks!

The thing I'm hoping for with the creation of these new wargames or sets of rules is that they could be used to "promote" the ASP, meaning that the Anargo Sector is used as a setting for playing these games, something Phil is trying to work towards with Warspike. But yeah...we could always use more enthusiast folks here!

Hmm...using the word "folks" often here...must be the fact that my roommate just got back from Australia and keeps using that word for everything! 

[Lanrak]

'Australian speak' has that effect.
14 years later I still say 'No worries' and 'Dunny'.

Any hoo.

As this sector develops , the back ground may evolve beyond its 40k inspired beginnings.
I can not see the curent incarnation of Nids or Orks having much in the way of politics.
Having said that , most current  40k races are very xenophibic.

Travel the universe discover new life forms , and 'BURN,KILL, DESTROY!!!!'

So if we evolve the background into more intelegent racial interaction.

We could develop new rule sets (one per tier) specificaly for use with 'our' new games setting.
 I am very exited about this prospect.

[CELS]

That kind of thinking is definitely something I like, Lanrak. It's safe to say that the ASP's view of the Warhammer 40,000 universe is not entirely "by the book". Of course, it's not really unrecognisable, we just like to... focus on the parts of the universe that we like, invent more stuff that is similar, and look away from the stuff we don't like (such as orks having no more advanced targetting systems than the iron sight).

Of course, we don't want to go too far with this. We don't want to make Warhammer 40,000 into Star Wars, with orks, eldar, vespids and jokaero sitting in a Nos'Aisley cantina as Imperial storm troopers come looking for a couple of missing servitors.

[Lanrak]

Hi CELS.

No ,not as far as crossing into other Sci fi scenes.

More along the lines of developing the current races into more mutidimentional entities.
Rather than the ' two dimentional cartoons' they are now.

Jump back to the  fluff of the early 1990s.And develop it to suit mature and intelegent gamers needs.(Rather than just making it 'Kewl for da kiddiz.')

Let Nids have Genestealer  Hybrids , 4th level hybrid 'ambasadors-provocatures'  with mild psychic powers.
Rebel leader 'Mathius' (4th level Hybrid...) 'Let us welcome this  new race of  'bio engineers ' that have brought us such prosperity....'

And let Orks  have Kunning Plans on and off the battle field.
(Any race that can use warp technology isnt that damn dumb!)

Allow 'advisors' to 'help ' all races.

Helpfully steering them on to the 'right' teritories....lending them new technology, (better to know what weapons your  future enemy is using.)

Oh! fancy that , all thier weapons are lazer based technology, good job we developed all this reflective armour then!

To be honest I am reminded of a brill little game by Avilon Hill.
'Super Power.'
It was so simple inconcept , major world players , trying to take over the world entirley.
Despite the simple rules  there was  huge depth of political interaction.
(Little  Dave was called 'El Presedente'  for years after wards.)

Just 'military might values', 'resuorce values'  and 'event cards' in the game.
But lots of wrangling,  pleading , back stabbing, bragging , .....so simple , soo much fun!

Totaly into the concept of 'Warspike.'
'Zoom in' or' Zoom out' to the level of interaction you want!

TTFN
Lanrak.

[CELS]

Well, I think you'll find that we have many things in common, Lanrak. When my ork article is made available on our Explore website, you'll see that we're very much in agreement in regards to ork intelligence. Their alleged stupidity is just Imperial propaganda.

Anyway, since I count at least 6 BFG players on this forum other than myself, I'm going to ask you all to kindly direct your attention to this thread and to make a reply at your leisure. Of course, I could just start identical threads on other forums, but the idea is that I don't want to show everyone the material before it goes in the Warp Rift e-zine. Otherwise, what's the point?

Thanks

[Galactic Fringe]

     I thought I might post my ships for Battle Fleet Gothic.  I fully intend to use them here, if I can.  I have some pictures of Ork ships from my fleet, and my Space Marine Fleet.  I'm going to add some of my Imperial ship pictures (as soon as I find the right flashdrive.)  I didn't really sort them any proper way.  I'm going to try to get some pictures loaded from my Chaos opponent, Eldar opponent, and Tau opponent by filching their pics, if they don't want to bother.  Since they use my camera, I got an edge!  Naturally, I won't if they object.  Just if they are too busy (lazy?) to do it for themselves.
     I have considerable background material, but I'm unsure about how to have it reviewed for possible use in the Project.  I may wish to have my Orks "immigrate" to a recently emptied planet, or some such.  I could even bring my marine and Imperial fleets to an adjacent sector, for frequent sorties into Anargo, if there is no room for more such already.

     My ships are here:http://s298.photobucket.com/albums/mm248/GalacticFringe/
Hmm ...My linking skills need work, but I'll get the hot keys right yet!

Thanks everyone.   G.F.

[horizon]

     I thought I might post my ships for Battle Fleet Gothic.  I fully intend to use them here, if I can.  I have some pictures of Ork ships from my fleet, and my Space Marine Fleet.  I'm going to add some of my Imperial ship pictures (as soon as I find the right flashdrive.)  I didn't really sort them any proper way.  I'm going to try to get some pictures loaded from my Chaos opponent, Eldar opponent, and Tau opponent by filching their pics, if they don't want to bother.  Since they use my camera, I got an edge!  Naturally, I won't if they object.  Just if they are too busy (lazy?) to do it for themselves.
     I have considerable background material, but I'm unsure about how to have it reviewed for possible use in the Project.  I may wish to have my Orks "immigrate" to a recently emptied planet, or some such.  I could even bring my marine and Imperial fleets to an adjacent sector, for frequent sorties into Anargo, if there is no room for more such already.

     My ships are here:
http://s298.photobucket.com/albums/mm248/GalacticFringe/

Hmm ...My linking skills need work, but I'll get the hot keys right yet!

Thanks everyone.   G.F.

If you put the link on a separate row the links works. Like I did in the quote above.

[Galactic Fringe]

Thank you Horizon,
     Being out of touch for a while leaves me with a learning curve, on several topics.  I'll remember this now.
     Unfortunately, I have no time for more chat, just now.  So. Later all!
G.F.

[Dazo]

I, surprising as it might sound, have a fully stocked dark eldar army, one I have actually recently got to play with. I must say they are hard to win with but can force a draw rather nicely(despite being reduced to 4 models they manage to kill enough of the enemy to make victory impossible in a capture the objective scenario)

My last battle was actually against dark eldar, a painful experience to be sure.

[Luddite]

Apologies for the threadomancy, but as this seems to be an oenended topic as opposed to a discussion as such i hope i'm not out of line jumping in on this.

So yes, i'm a solid wargamer, although much from the historical perspective.

From a GW perspective i tend to play their Historical rulesets, mainly WAB (Warhammer Ancient Battles), Warmaster Ancients and the marvellous Legends of the Old West.  We're looking at using the Great War rules in the near future too.  The only GW rules we're regularly playing at the moment is WAB, where we're running and Age of Arthur campaign (featuring Romano-British, Irish, Attecotti, Pictish and my Saxon forces).  We played some WFB a few years back (http://www.durhamwargames.co.uk/battle_reports/2004/Feb/19/index.asp).  Ooh, and we did a bit of BFG back then too... http://www.durhamwargames.co.uk/battle_reports/2004/Mar/04/index.asp

I've spent many years playing tournaments using the DBM (De Bellis Multitudinous) rules and these are our main 'Ancients' rules that we use.  That said, we tried the new 'Field of Glory' rules fated to replace DBM, dismissed them as unplayable and are now looking at switching to DBMM (De Bellis Magister Militum), the 'true successor' to DBM.  I have the following armies:  Mongol conquest, Alexandrian Macedonian, Fatamid Egyptian (collected for this tournament http://www.rivals.talktalk.net/anderida/2006/2006sh.htm, Medeival German, Early Northern European Barbarians.  I'm currently converting the Medeival Germans into Medeival Swedish, and slowing building up a Tamil/Sinhalese army and an Ancient British / Gallic force.

For other periods we play a lot of WWII, mainly using Battlefront or Crossfire.  We tried Flames of War but they are the worst WWII rules ever written so abandoned them sharpish.

For ACW we use Fire and Fury, and we're currently running a narrative campaign in the Sudan using 'The sword and the Flame'.  In the initial battle of the Madhist uprising the Fuzzy Wuzzys managed to breach the gates of Khartoum themselves before being cut to ribbons by disciplined British Naval rifle fire, but the headlines back in London weren't good!  So far, the Anglo-Egyptian positions in the south are being consistently overrun by Madhist forces...

Lately, i've kicked off into the new 'A Very British Civil War' genre, the opening shots of which can be viewed here http://gwargamesp.18.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=648

I'm currently sorting out a Rogue Trooper platoon-level game.  I'm using Cadians for the Norts and Catachans as the souther Genetic Infantrymen.  I'll probably set it on a planet other than Nu Earth though.  As for rules, i'm probably going to use the mass battle variant of Legends of the Old West found in the Alamo supplement, having tried and rejected the 'Too Fat Lardies - I Ain't Been Shot Mum' WWII rules...

For most of our wargames, the narrative or scenario storyline is always most important and we tend to run loose campaigns based around narrative progression.

[Dragoon King]

Yup, still rocking my Black Legion, up to 4,200 points now. Gotta paint them, I have a LOT of Apoc projects on the back burner.